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welcome to shattered reality with their

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hosts kate valentine and farrugia

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prepare to have your paradigms shifted

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in the truth questioned and now

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shattered reality hi and welcome to

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another episode of shattered reality i'm

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kate valentine and I am Farrugia today

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is March 29th 2016 and we have a

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wonderful guest here today who's going

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to be talking a lot about the UFO and

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contact he experiences but before we

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actually entry what we're introducing

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her we're going to give you a little bit

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of background okay okay well actually

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we're really lucky to have her her name

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is Mary wat Rodwell and she's got an

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extensive background in the abduction

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phenomena uh for one thing she is the

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founder and principal of the Australian

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close encounter Resource Network she's

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also written a very fascinating book

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awakening how extraterrestrial contact

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can transform your life she's also the

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producer of an EBE award-winning

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documentaries expression of ET contact a

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visual blueprint and expressions of ET

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contact a communication and healing

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blueprint so Mary thank you so much for

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spending this next hour with us you know

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some fascinating stories to tell us I'm

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sure it's not salute pleasure and thank

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you for inviting me

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well I I think one of the more

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interesting things is that Mary is now

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talking to us from Australia that's just

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phenomenal to me yeah just off through

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the wonders of skype you know and it we

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apologize for the early hour in

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Australia but we do it at this time of

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day here well you know the interesting

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thing is that we sort of more or less

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wonder at it but we take it for granted

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that the skype a formulation will go

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through whereas maybe I'll it short is

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30 years ago this would be found to be

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impossible other than you remember the

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old long distance telephone calls you

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know operator yes and then what is the

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country's area code and all that stuff

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yes so I cost two thousand dollars but

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and I think what you're studying today

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Mary is sort of unbelievable as it may

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sound too many people in coming years

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the reaction will be well of course it

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was true i mean how could they have

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doubted it and III think you the number

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like I think you at one one thing you

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had 1600 abduction stories and that was

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you alone my lap in there yes that's

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right it's now about 3000 oh wow that

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sort of thing that's up the ante I mean

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to be honest I think the hardest thing

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for me now being so involved in it for

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20-plus years is how common it is know

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many people across the globe are having

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these experiences and it's almost like

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you know everyone can see the elephant

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but nobody wants to say the elephant's

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there well yeah well because we see

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different aspects of the elephant I

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suppose just like in the story just to

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let you know it and I had mentioned this

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to you in our correspondents on the

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internet that all three of us here are

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experiences of sorts different kinds of

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experiences but everyone here in this

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room

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has had an ET type experience or UFO

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type experience and more than one I

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might add but what we want to get to

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with you right from the get-go is can

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you tell us fairly straightforwardly

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precisely how you got into it you were a

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nurse Anna and a midwife and how did

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that bring you to to studying this well

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had experiences and you'll have done a

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lot of journeying with that experience

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the it's almost like you get led into it

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from you know through your life and

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although I started out as a nurse and

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the Midwife I went into counseling

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because of a number of synchronous

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events where I found that counseling was

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better about prevention rather than cure

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which I felt a lot of conventional

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medicine really is just fixing things

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after they've happened whereas at least

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in counseling you're looking at the

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causes of summer business which is you

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know stress etc but what it also exposed

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me to in terms of all life experience

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whether it was grief and bereavement or

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whatever this you realize that people

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are having a lot of experiences that

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traditional psychology doesn't

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acknowledge or if it does consider this

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in an aberration and for me it was you

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know people were having extraordinary

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things happen you know they'd have a

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great issue and maybe was mum and they

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would feel or sense mum around or you

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know smell her perfume or something and

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say am I going crazy when really all

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they were experiencing was more of our

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multi-dimensional nature which everyone

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on this planet has even if it's shut

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down or conditioned out of them a little

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bit answer me I've always seen there if

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it was weird and wonderful I always had

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a book on it because I would all

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fascinated with the mysteries of life

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you know right from a little child it is

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if it was unusual or strange it

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fascinated me and I didn't actually know

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about the whole thing to do with

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abductions contact but synchronously

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once again a few months before my

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very first client that came to me I've

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read a couple of books on the subject

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one with dr. John Maxie Harvard Sakaya

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that was that was a great book to have

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started with brilliant absolutely

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brilliant and of course communion by

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Whitley stream but those were the two

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that I picked up because they look

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fascinating two months later I mean I

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thought this was really rare a gentleman

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walked in my office he said Mary I've

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heard you're open-minded for this

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there's no support groups for this

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everybody just thinks you're a looney

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when this gentleman proceeded to tell me

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about his own experiences and his family

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so you know he would wake up with shaved

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areas marks on his body he said that the

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whole family is experiencing this and

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listen this took it to a level where it

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was very hard for me to dismiss when

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it's one thing one individual to say

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this is Mike spins but when you've got

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the whole family involved then this

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takes it to a whole new level and he was

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grounded he was articulate there was no

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question in my mind that this man was

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experiencing something very real and

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this is something you you know when

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you're working in counseling you get

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this gut feeling that you know you know

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when someone's speaking their truth and

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I don't care how strange it is it is

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there truth is there's a resonance to it

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had sort of resonance to this to to

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Ellis and from that really and I he's

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actually become put my dearest friends

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and I always blame him to take me

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starting me down that rabbit hole

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because I've never been able to come up

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for air since but the bottom line is

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that two weeks later someone else came

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in with experiences and from that well

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the rest is history I really wanted to

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provide a professional resource because

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it was obvious to me with a lot of the

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UFO groups Goodis and kind as

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well-meaning as they are a lot of them

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are you know amateurs they're not

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trained to offer therapeutic support

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they may be able to help you with you

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know information and that the you know

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the UFO you know if you like information

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around seeing UFOs and what color and

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what shape what time the sector et

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cetera but you or as a group will know

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that this is so much bigger than the UFO

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that you've seen yeah there's anything

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about us as a species and our

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interactions with all these you know

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intelligences that have been interacting

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with us for millennia and who are in

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fact in my view our ancestors because

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it's pretty obvious they've been working

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with our DNA right from the get-go so

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for me it's the big picture stuff I and

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helping people to get the big picture in

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terms of understanding their experiences

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wow that's fascinating really and it's

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great that people do have a resource

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such as yours um because you're quite

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right i mean if you go up to the average

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person and say gee I was abducted last

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night and I had this really really idea

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put my head and it's like an awakening

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and I'm a changed person they're going

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to give you about 10 foot a distance I

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think at least didn't give you the hairy

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eyeball and move away so it's good and

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yet I I don't know I still have a little

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bit trouble myself coming to terms with

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abductions but I absolutely believe that

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people definitely experience something I

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I just don't know that it's necessarily

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alien beings um what are your feelings

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about that what do you think they're

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experiencing I think it's it's actually

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you're quite right not just

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extraterrestrials there are

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interdimensional extra dimensionals a

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lot of you know those that are having

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experiences also experiencing spirits

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may angelic beings like beings and also

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there may even be those coming from our

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future as well I mean I've come to

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understand that it's all in the matrix

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that it's not a or b it's actually all

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of it and just depending on your lens of

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perception or how you wished turpin it

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is how you will interpret it and I me

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mediums and clairvoyance and they'll

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talk about their spirit guides or

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whatever and then they'll say oh I've

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got I've got one guide actually looks

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loo and gone hair and I'll say on what

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do you have a budget is so it's to me

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it's what it's really saying is that we

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are opening and awakening to our

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multi-dimensional nature which in the

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Western society is largely we are

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conditioned or programmed out of

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accepting know that it causes this

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conflict of realities because you're

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told that you know unless you can touch

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feel see it and smell it it it's not

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real when every one of us Intuit's and

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senses feels knows things that they

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haven't consciously learned that have a

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knowing and all of this is part of our

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multi-dimensional nature and I think

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that a lot of the time the contact or

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whether you call it a contact contact d

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experience abduction is is breaking down

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those barriers to us understanding that

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we are actually multi-dimensional and we

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are interacting with all these different

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types of intelligences you know from

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many different dimensions and it's just

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how we choose to interpret them that is

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the you know to me that's how I

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understand it at the moment okay well

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that sounds that sounds right to me I

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know that my experiences that started as

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a small child have changed my life and

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changed the direction that I have

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traveled in my life certainly my

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experiences with non-physical beings and

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also having seen of several unidentified

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flying objects now whether these flying

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objects were from the Moon or Mars or

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Arcturus I have no way of knowing or

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they came from another dimension that's

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not within my purview to know that but I

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know it's like the old wasn't there a

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movie I know what I know what I saw or

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something like that

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but you know what I always found

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interesting too is like we always get

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sort of one side of the story like they

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certainly are whatever these beings are

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know our history know what we are but we

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got so little about them their history

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how they developed I mean I doubt if

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they sprang full-blown from the head of

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Zeus so they must have developed from

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something yeah did anybody ever tell you

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anything about the history of these

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beings well what's interesting and I

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know we're getting into and what I'm

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already writing about at the moment is a

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lot of the new generations and children

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have conscious recall but only its past

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lives being on other planets where they

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are very aware that the same beings that

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they were on those planets visiting them

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and supporting them and taking them back

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home occasionally so they don't get too

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homesick are actually explaining a lot

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of our history from that knowing and

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these are sometimes teenagers even you

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know children under 10 and some of the

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older generations that have allowed

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themselves to go there and you know will

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be aware they're taking to their their

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origins and explained why they've chosen

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to incarnated in human form this time to

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be part of what they see is a whole

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shift in human consciousness at the

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moment and it yes it's about our origins

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that you know there's a lot of those

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adults as well as children are taken off

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onto the craft and educated into the

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true origins of it they are where

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they're from and and how we came to be

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you know the children will talk about

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you know and the DNA and how many

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different intelligences have had an

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input into our DNA and this is why you

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know some people will feel they're from

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the Pleiades or they'll feel they're

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from Arcturus although you know or

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whatever because that they're resonating

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to that part of their DNA that has has

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come from there and and this is giving

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us the clues if we're prepared to listen

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to that that knowing and that resonance

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that we have to this kind of information

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even though I think the government's

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know far more and they're not telling us

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it's left to us as those that are in

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touch or in contact to start trusting

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that kind of information because I think

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it has veracity mmm-hmm well I you know

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even saw as we've talked about

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technology with skype there's also a DNA

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technology now called Crispin which

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allows very relatively inexpensive ways

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to in a sense cut and paste sections of

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DNA and you can create almost anything

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you want to any chimera that you'd like

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to and that's unfortunately it is

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inexpensive and it can be done outside

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of you know universities of government

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facilities that would be open to private

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people as well it's pretty scary young

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this yeah I think being there before

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probably in our history but the

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interesting thing is it you know the

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indigenous tribes many of them will say

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that the gods were the little G I will

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say enough come down and interacted

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genetically with us the Dogon tribe in

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well yes oh and it helps about it that

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and some of the children will talk about

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the fact that our DNA has been altered

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we have 223 genes in our DNA they still

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can't explain because there are sideways

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insertion of genetic material we also

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have being spliced and moved around as

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some of them or whistleblower

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geneticists say there is no doubt that

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we have been modified if you like from

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the indigenous species that we were and

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we know we've got the missing link where

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we went from cro-magnon and Neanderthal

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to Homo sapiens sapiens with nice sized

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eggs etc I mean it doesn't take a genius

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to work out what what's happened there

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it's whether or not you you want to go

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there I suppose right well I so I guess

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we do want to go there today for sure I

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mean even just to carry that analogy a

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little bit further when you you could

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think of yourself as like a cell phone

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with the proper antenna picking up the

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frequencies of these beings that are

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different vibration you are

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and some people just have little better

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antennas and other people absolutely ah

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so I I think if we had this discussion a

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hundred years from now we'd be saying

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like and they didn't think it was

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possible yeah so if we're around 100

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years from now I'm not personally but

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well it seems to me that it's definitely

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a situation where life is ubiquitous in

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the universe it's not just confined to

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the earth and we become like the earth

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centric people during the Middle Ages

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who couldn't believe that the earth was

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revolving around the Sun so it's always

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been this idea that we're so special and

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we're the only planet where there could

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ever be life in fact when we grew up we

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were taught in schools as we have said

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before that the rest of the his sons had

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no planets the rest of the star said no

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planets and I remember thinking that's

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not possible even as a child I knew that

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there were there were other planets and

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there would no reason why there couldn't

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be life on other planets or just other

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kinds of life that didn't even need a

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planet to live on could live on a star

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or on them on a nebula somewhere so you

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you have done work with a lot of

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different of individuals which which

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person impressed you the most aside from

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I believe you said Ellis was the

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gentleman the initial person what what

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contact the experiencer abductee a story

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has impressed you the most there's

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something you might like to share with

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us now Mary oh gosh I've got such a rich

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tapestry because it's it's actually you

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know so many people have extraordinary

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stories it really is is mind-blowing the

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range of them but one of the recent

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articles that I did and it's it's too

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you know one of the things that I've

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noticed is meeting a lot of older

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generations that have had experiences

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and never spoken about it all their

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lives right from

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you know and I've met I met a 79 year

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old lady in Norway last year when I was

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doing my tour of Scandinavia and you

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know interesting about Scandinavia is

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they're very technologically advanced

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you think they're a very highly

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civilized society which they are but one

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of the things that they struggle with

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believe it or not is this kind of

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experience in fact it's almost more

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acceptable to be a sexual predator than

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it is to be an experiencer and I was

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quite worried when I went to Norway

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because my mine is mine is pretty out

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there even though you've balaji and

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talking about you know a lot of range of

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different things from the new

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generations that are coming in etc and I

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was a bit concerned about the response

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to my presentation in Norway but what I

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did it anyway I noticed was a lot of

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people in the audience were extremely

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emotional and one of them was a lady who

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came up me beautiful soul and she was

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said look I'm 79 years old I'm a

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farmer's wife everything you've spoken

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about has been my life and she said and

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I have never spoken about this to anyone

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oh and she said and one of the things

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that you were you know talking about

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communicating with animal she said I'm a

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farmer's wife and she said I called the

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sheep in with my mind and nobody knew

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how i did it and she said but for me

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hearing this the first time was that you

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know just an amazing thing after you

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know nearly being 80 years old and

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interestingly with that I was talking to

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a lady who had had chronic back pain for

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many years she was a teacher she said

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look Mary I was on opiates because I was

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in such pain I was headed for a

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wheelchair and when I first called she

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contact me she was 66 years old and she

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had experiences all her life and she

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woke up one morning after a levitating

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levitating experience with all her

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technology where all the battery's flat

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and whatever and said Mary but when I

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got up I didn't need any medication and

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I was feeling mobile and I couldn't work

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it out and I really didn't know what had

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happened and we did a regression I do

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regression

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obviously one to one but also over skype

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and she lives in melbourne and this is a

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66 year old lady that basically thought

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her life was over because she was headed

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as a safe for a wheelchair with her

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chronic back issues and jennifer to back

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issues um we did the regression and in

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the regression she's actually taken for

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healing she's taken to her planet and

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where she's from she was shown that

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she's now going to start her mission at

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66 years old that they fixed her back

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because she had things to do she also

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had to talk about this and also because

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her family or her children and her adult

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children and her grandchildren were

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involved and this was at the start of

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her new life and when she when she came

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out of it she said Mary this is

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incredible and they killed me because

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now I've got things to do it I mean this

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is 66 at 69 years old I actually met her

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and when I went to Melbourne and to do

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an experienced a workshop she came up to

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me and we greeted each other like

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long-lost friends and she said Mary you

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will never believe what I'm doing I am

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under a pseudonym pseudonym I'm

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dialoguing with scientists she said I've

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never studied this chemtrails everything

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to do with you know what's actually

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happening on this planet now I'm able to

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talk dialogue with scientists about all

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this GMOs she said I have never learned

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this stuff but I know about it and they

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said you know I'm going under a

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pseudonym because I don't my children to

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know I'm up to she's I could actually

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now I can still function at a midnight

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she said because I've got so much energy

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1 69 years old and my article is never

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too late what I'm hearing is that a lot

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of those that have spent their life of

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experiences and are in this more senior

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years as saying you know obviously you

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know for me you know there's nothing

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more ahead of me and I'm saying no you

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absolutely just don't know that there's

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been a reason why you've had those

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experiences all your life and you don't

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know they're going to come calling

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because this is one perfect example of

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someone who thought her life was over

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I had been fixed up because she's got a

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job to do and this is what she's doing

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now so I think that's a pretty

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incredible story yes it certainly is

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incredible but so you must hear these

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stories all the time then and if you do

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you ever meet someone who says to you

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yeah I had this experience I told all my

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friends and half of them believe in half

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the kaplan don't and I mean are they

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somewhat is there any experiences it's

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relatively open about it oh and there

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are and and there are certain

543
00:24:17,879 --> 00:24:15,490
generations of them where I will get a

544
00:24:19,499 --> 00:24:17,889
parent writing to me and saying look

545
00:24:21,899 --> 00:24:19,509
I've had experiences all my life my

546
00:24:24,690 --> 00:24:21,909
children are an upgrade they are even

547
00:24:27,389 --> 00:24:24,700
more consciously aware and and actually

548
00:24:30,629 --> 00:24:27,399
it's she said and I know you know my my

549
00:24:32,970 --> 00:24:30,639
parents and my grandparents but you know

550
00:24:35,549 --> 00:24:32,980
my grandmother was very intuitive for

551
00:24:38,180 --> 00:24:35,559
whatever so you can actually see the

552
00:24:40,049 --> 00:24:38,190
linkages of the genetic links I'm

553
00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:40,059
intergenerational links and inter

554
00:24:44,940 --> 00:24:43,360
cultural links as well because sometimes

555
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:44,950
obviously there'll be a mix of cultures

556
00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:48,490
and and you can actually see almost like

557
00:24:52,830 --> 00:24:49,840
they're being brought together as a

558
00:24:54,899 --> 00:24:52,840
certain time because of the gym I think

559
00:24:57,180 --> 00:24:54,909
the genetic mix well you don't in

560
00:25:00,539 --> 00:24:57,190
faction memories could actually be

561
00:25:02,549 --> 00:25:00,549
stored in DNA and I'm wondering if a lot

562
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:02,559
of the experiences are just sort of like

563
00:25:10,289 --> 00:25:06,129
a time DNA or RNA in this case to go off

564
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:10,299
of and the person enix well I mean this

565
00:25:14,220 --> 00:25:12,129
is just a theory just sort of popped in

566
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:14,230
my head but it just sort of like a tape

567
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:16,450
recorder type thing on the DNA that goes

568
00:25:20,369 --> 00:25:18,129
off in your mind you think you've

569
00:25:22,379 --> 00:25:20,379
experienced this but it's sort of been

570
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:22,389
preloaded which I guess begs the issue

571
00:25:26,940 --> 00:25:24,250
whether it actually happens when it's

572
00:25:29,549 --> 00:25:26,950
promoted it still how still happens yeah

573
00:25:31,980 --> 00:25:29,559
so nevermind scratched by having I have

574
00:25:37,070 --> 00:25:31,990
a confession to make i am the daughter

575
00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:37,080
of a father who made an instrument to

576
00:25:46,820 --> 00:25:41,289
communicate with these other beings he

577
00:25:50,940 --> 00:25:46,830
made a sort of sculpture that showed

578
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:50,950
basic two-dimensional shapes and he

579
00:25:57,210 --> 00:25:54,240
would activate this sculpture by

580
00:25:59,430 --> 00:25:57,220
striking it with a mallet let us say and

581
00:26:01,919 --> 00:25:59,440
it made a sound but it was more the

582
00:26:04,860 --> 00:26:01,929
vibration of the shapes and he believed

583
00:26:08,549 --> 00:26:04,870
that through this he was communicating

584
00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:08,559
with some others and certainly I owe

585
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:14,080
part of my history and my story to

586
00:26:20,060 --> 00:26:16,090
having grown up in a household that

587
00:26:24,330 --> 00:26:20,070
never said there's no such thing as

588
00:26:27,419 --> 00:26:24,340
anything anything is paranormal yeah and

589
00:26:29,879 --> 00:26:27,429
that is so important because I've met

590
00:26:32,789 --> 00:26:29,889
many that have been more damaged by

591
00:26:35,460 --> 00:26:32,799
being in it in a family whether it was

592
00:26:38,909 --> 00:26:35,470
in a very very religious for example or

593
00:26:41,129 --> 00:26:38,919
very very scientific and they have not

594
00:26:43,139 --> 00:26:41,139
been allowed to own their experiences

595
00:26:46,259 --> 00:26:43,149
and I always remember one beautiful lady

596
00:26:47,970 --> 00:26:46,269
saying to me Mary even as a child you

597
00:26:49,860 --> 00:26:47,980
know I was having these experiences and

598
00:26:52,169 --> 00:26:49,870
I talked to my mom and told her and

599
00:26:55,019 --> 00:26:52,179
she'd said that's not real that's just

600
00:26:58,139 --> 00:26:55,029
your imagination and she said I lived in

601
00:27:01,259 --> 00:26:58,149
conflict with my realities for many many

602
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:01,269
years not knowing what was real so you

603
00:27:05,850 --> 00:27:03,490
know that is you know that can be a huge

604
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:05,860
trauma for those that are you know are

605
00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:07,450
having experiences and for whatever

606
00:27:12,539 --> 00:27:10,240
reason the parents either are not open

607
00:27:15,180 --> 00:27:12,549
or can't be open or maybe more even

608
00:27:17,850 --> 00:27:15,190
fearful on what you know the child is

609
00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:17,860
saying well this is what I say to people

610
00:27:23,070 --> 00:27:20,710
who ask me how do you be psychic how can

611
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:23,080
you become psychic is it just some

612
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:24,970
people who are psychic and not others

613
00:27:30,389 --> 00:27:27,369
and I say to them that the first thing

614
00:27:33,210 --> 00:27:30,399
that they have to do is allow that it

615
00:27:35,759 --> 00:27:33,220
may actually be real because if you've

616
00:27:37,909 --> 00:27:35,769
spent your whole life thinking that you

617
00:27:40,970 --> 00:27:37,919
you're not psychic and psychic

618
00:27:43,259 --> 00:27:40,980
functioning size function actually is

619
00:27:45,980 --> 00:27:43,269
impossible well then you're not going to

620
00:27:49,169 --> 00:27:45,990
experience it very often you have to

621
00:27:50,269 --> 00:27:49,179
accept it and encourage it what we have

622
00:27:53,930 --> 00:27:50,279
for you now

623
00:27:57,979 --> 00:27:53,940
Mary is a listener of ours a lovely lady

624
00:28:01,820 --> 00:27:57,989
who I happen to know who had an

625
00:28:05,209 --> 00:28:01,830
experience in Georgia and 2010 Georgia

626
00:28:07,789 --> 00:28:05,219
not Soviet former Soviet republic of

627
00:28:12,019 --> 00:28:07,799
Georgia but the state of Georgia in the

628
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:12,029
United States and our trusty our trusty

629
00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:16,320
bill our bill here our audio engineer is

630
00:28:21,469 --> 00:28:18,809
going to cue it up and we're going to

631
00:28:22,969 --> 00:28:21,479
play it for you now okay and I think

632
00:28:25,249 --> 00:28:22,979
it's what about five million that's

633
00:28:27,709 --> 00:28:25,259
exactly five minutes or less and we'd

634
00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:27,719
love to hear your interpretation yes

635
00:28:34,999 --> 00:28:31,289
we'd like you to take on it hello hello

636
00:28:37,969 --> 00:28:35,009
Diane this is Farrugia calling from

637
00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:37,979
shattered reality podcast and now we

638
00:28:47,389 --> 00:28:41,849
have about five minutes to hear your

639
00:28:54,379 --> 00:28:47,399
story about how your your trip was

640
00:28:59,299 --> 00:28:54,389
waylaid so go right ahead ok I have been

641
00:29:03,619 --> 00:28:59,309
fine it was 2010 I was living on a farm

642
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:03,629
outside of Athens Georgia and so a

643
00:29:10,219 --> 00:29:06,450
couple of days a week I would come into

644
00:29:13,940 --> 00:29:10,229
Athens to do air so this happened on one

645
00:29:15,889 --> 00:29:13,950
of my errands days i had finished about

646
00:29:21,589 --> 00:29:15,899
half the errands I had two more to go

647
00:29:23,930 --> 00:29:21,599
and i was on a four-lane highway heading

648
00:29:28,249 --> 00:29:23,940
back toward town it was an intersection

649
00:29:31,369 --> 00:29:28,259
ahead and the two errands were on either

650
00:29:36,109 --> 00:29:31,379
side of the highway if i were to go left

651
00:29:38,779 --> 00:29:36,119
I would go to my rental house and just

652
00:29:40,489 --> 00:29:38,789
check on it because I had some students

653
00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:40,499
in there that were a little less than

654
00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:43,710
what it's called hiding and if I were to

655
00:29:50,749 --> 00:29:46,080
go right I would go to the post office

656
00:29:53,629 --> 00:29:50,759
and pick up the mail okay it was kind of

657
00:29:57,670 --> 00:29:53,639
you know I was deciding what to do and I

658
00:30:00,880 --> 00:29:57,680
decided I think I should go left first

659
00:30:03,610 --> 00:30:00,890
so I got in middle turn lane the

660
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:03,620
left-hand turn lane and there was a red

661
00:30:11,470 --> 00:30:07,850
light but stopped at the light now there

662
00:30:13,270 --> 00:30:11,480
was traffic stops to the right of me two

663
00:30:17,170 --> 00:30:13,280
lanes of traffic as it looks traffic

664
00:30:19,330 --> 00:30:17,180
behind me and it's kind of important to

665
00:30:23,170 --> 00:30:19,340
remember that I did not go to the post

666
00:30:25,870 --> 00:30:23,180
office that was not my choice okay you

667
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:25,880
chose to go to the rental house going to

668
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:28,130
the left would be to the rental house

669
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:29,810
into the right would be to the post

670
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:34,370
office exactly okay so i looked up into

671
00:30:39,130 --> 00:30:36,290
the light the light was red of course I

672
00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:39,140
looked down at the clock in my car said

673
00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:44,000
11 11 a.m. and the next thing I know I'm

674
00:30:51,460 --> 00:30:48,190
driving on a two-lane country road I

675
00:30:53,530 --> 00:30:51,470
look to the left there's some horses

676
00:30:56,620 --> 00:30:53,540
grazing or pasture and there's another

677
00:31:01,930 --> 00:30:56,630
pasture for right I have no idea where I

678
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:01,940
am now at this particular time in 2010 I

679
00:31:08,140 --> 00:31:04,640
did not have a GPS I did not have a

680
00:31:11,650 --> 00:31:08,150
smart foot so I really had no way to

681
00:31:15,130 --> 00:31:11,660
locate myself except to turn the car

682
00:31:18,610 --> 00:31:15,140
around and go back and try to figure out

683
00:31:22,690 --> 00:31:18,620
where I had come from okay I was very

684
00:31:25,450 --> 00:31:22,700
calm very collected I pulled the car

685
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:25,460
over i turned it around i went a few

686
00:31:31,630 --> 00:31:29,600
miles and there was the post office so i

687
00:31:35,860 --> 00:31:31,640
pulled off into the post office parking

688
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:35,870
lot and immediately I lost it I started

689
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:40,130
hyperventilating my heart was racing was

690
00:31:45,550 --> 00:31:43,490
like oh what just happened to me and all

691
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:45,560
these thoughts were just running through

692
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:48,410
my head like well did i black out did am

693
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:50,450
i a multiple personality did somebody

694
00:31:55,810 --> 00:31:53,690
come in and take over my body how could

695
00:31:58,810 --> 00:31:55,820
this have happened and then I looked

696
00:32:04,630 --> 00:31:58,820
down at the clock and the clock said

697
00:32:07,150 --> 00:32:04,640
1104 and I said to myself it would have

698
00:32:10,150 --> 00:32:07,160
taken me about four minutes to turn the

699
00:32:13,300 --> 00:32:10,160
car around and to come back

700
00:32:15,910 --> 00:32:13,310
post office from where I found myself in

701
00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:15,920
the pasture area okay I could I could

702
00:32:23,170 --> 00:32:21,440
not have possibly turned left because if

703
00:32:26,410 --> 00:32:23,180
i turn the left i would have had to go

704
00:32:28,660 --> 00:32:26,420
quarter of a mile if it was a median in

705
00:32:30,810 --> 00:32:28,670
the road i was turning onto you i

706
00:32:34,090 --> 00:32:30,820
wouldn't have to go quarter of a mile I

707
00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:34,100
would have to make a u-turn go through

708
00:32:39,460 --> 00:32:37,310
five lane road and then drive another

709
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:39,470
few miles to get to the country turn

710
00:32:44,670 --> 00:32:41,450
around again and then comes the post on

711
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:44,680
their little bit minimum 10 15 minutes

712
00:32:51,490 --> 00:32:48,530
fine and how much time had elapsed four

713
00:32:54,220 --> 00:32:51,500
minutes okay and I'm thinking the four

714
00:32:56,050 --> 00:32:54,230
minutes when I thought about it it took

715
00:32:58,930 --> 00:32:56,060
me about four minutes to turn the car

716
00:33:00,640 --> 00:32:58,940
around and drive back to those off that

717
00:33:05,140 --> 00:33:00,650
was probably for the four minutes so

718
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:05,150
when my mind kind of populated it there

719
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:07,310
was no time lapse between sitting at the

720
00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:11,600
light and driving in the country Wow no

721
00:33:20,620 --> 00:33:16,640
time at all I went home I decided to get

722
00:33:23,140 --> 00:33:20,630
the air consent of and it called a

723
00:33:27,220 --> 00:33:23,150
friend of mine do I knew that had some

724
00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:27,230
strange experiences to just ask her what

725
00:33:34,410 --> 00:33:30,110
she got she said she didn't know what

726
00:33:39,390 --> 00:33:34,420
has happened to me but she had had two

727
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:39,400
sightings at that same location of UFOs

728
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:43,850
well yes well one was at night and she

729
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:48,290
saw unusual white guy so she assumed it

730
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:50,690
was something that she couldn't you know

731
00:33:57,820 --> 00:33:54,110
figure out so call me UFO that one she

732
00:34:00,280 --> 00:33:57,830
was alone the other sightings she was

733
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:00,290
with a friend it was during the day and

734
00:34:06,940 --> 00:34:03,290
they saw a slot what she described it as

735
00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:06,950
a sausage-shaped craft moving slowly in

736
00:34:16,090 --> 00:34:10,000
the sky that just suddenly vanished oh

737
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:16,100
wow wow here's my story well Diane I

738
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:18,800
thank you very much on behalf of

739
00:34:26,620 --> 00:34:21,050
shattered reality

740
00:34:29,950 --> 00:34:26,630
and we're going to cut away now to put

741
00:34:34,180 --> 00:34:29,960
this segment into our longer broadcast

742
00:34:37,180 --> 00:34:34,190
with Mary rod well thank you very much

743
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:37,190
thank you and I hope you can give me

744
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:39,170
some clarity as to what happened to me

745
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:42,890
we will try our best okay Diane thank

746
00:34:49,330 --> 00:34:46,850
you very much bye bye Mary you've heard

747
00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:49,340
this type of story many times I'm sure I

748
00:34:54,970 --> 00:34:52,310
have yes I happened yeah I'm sure what

749
00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:54,980
happened was the woman then with missing

750
00:34:59,710 --> 00:34:57,200
time I imagined no no missing time

751
00:35:03,580 --> 00:34:59,720
that's the interesting part about it she

752
00:35:05,890 --> 00:35:03,590
made a left turn when she really went

753
00:35:09,220 --> 00:35:05,900
after she made the left turn she found

754
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:09,230
herself as though she had gone down the

755
00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:12,530
right road to the right but several

756
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:16,730
miles beyond the post office now it was

757
00:35:23,140 --> 00:35:19,490
as she could as close as she could

758
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:23,150
estimate it she and the car were

759
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:26,930
teleported there instantaneously because

760
00:35:30,730 --> 00:35:28,610
by the time she got the car turned

761
00:35:34,510 --> 00:35:30,740
around and then she reached the post

762
00:35:39,010 --> 00:35:34,520
office she realized that only four

763
00:35:42,010 --> 00:35:39,020
minutes had gone by so had she made a

764
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:42,020
u-turn had she gone down the road and

765
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:46,250
made a u-turn and then taking the next

766
00:35:52,750 --> 00:35:49,490
jug handle up to go to the post office

767
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:52,760
instead and gone down the road past the

768
00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:54,530
post office turned around and then came

769
00:35:59,590 --> 00:35:56,510
back to the post office that should have

770
00:36:02,800 --> 00:35:59,600
taken at least 20 to 25 minutes to do

771
00:36:04,750 --> 00:36:02,810
all of that instead she drove to the

772
00:36:08,830 --> 00:36:04,760
post office from beyond the post office

773
00:36:11,110 --> 00:36:08,840
and was therefore minutes after she made

774
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:11,120
the wrong way turn which is physically

775
00:36:18,190 --> 00:36:15,770
impossible yeah and furthermore she some

776
00:36:21,849 --> 00:36:18,200
friend of hers had seen some

777
00:36:24,319 --> 00:36:21,859
unidentified craft in the neighborhood

778
00:36:27,769 --> 00:36:24,329
cannot can I ask cuz she had any

779
00:36:30,349 --> 00:36:27,779
regression and over that incident not to

780
00:36:33,249 --> 00:36:30,359
my knowledge but she did have an

781
00:36:39,380 --> 00:36:33,259
out-of-body experience where she was

782
00:36:42,190 --> 00:36:39,390
taken up to a craft but not a I don't

783
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:42,200
know that she's had a regression at all

784
00:36:47,299 --> 00:36:45,450
because that would that would be a way

785
00:36:49,459 --> 00:36:47,309
of understanding because what we're

786
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:49,469
talking about here is it sounds like

787
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:51,569
they needed to pick her up and that was

788
00:36:55,849 --> 00:36:53,729
why she felt herself going one way

789
00:36:58,670 --> 00:36:55,859
rather than another and they can

790
00:37:00,769 --> 00:36:58,680
manipulate time anyway so you know that

791
00:37:02,870 --> 00:37:00,779
you know on the craft you could be on

792
00:37:05,359 --> 00:37:02,880
the craft an hour and but it would

793
00:37:08,529 --> 00:37:05,369
appear like you've only been gone a few

794
00:37:12,799 --> 00:37:08,539
minutes and they can actually manipulate

795
00:37:14,839 --> 00:37:12,809
time in that way so that it would be the

796
00:37:16,999 --> 00:37:14,849
regression that would be able to explain

797
00:37:19,969 --> 00:37:17,009
exactly what occurred and the

798
00:37:21,859 --> 00:37:19,979
teleporting as well sometimes I think

799
00:37:24,109 --> 00:37:21,869
that they do that deliberately just to

800
00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:24,119
highlight to you that you have been

801
00:37:29,180 --> 00:37:26,160
picked up at you can't explain it away

802
00:37:31,609 --> 00:37:29,190
and it's like wake up guys you know if

803
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:31,619
we are we are visiting you you know

804
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:35,249
because I found experiences on a lot of

805
00:37:40,549 --> 00:37:37,890
experiences much to the misconception of

806
00:37:42,799 --> 00:37:40,559
the public are usually more skeptical

807
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:42,809
than the most skeptical because they're

808
00:37:50,329 --> 00:37:47,130
so keen to be seen for themselves to not

809
00:37:52,549 --> 00:37:50,339
mislead themselves or to appear like

810
00:37:54,890 --> 00:37:52,559
they're too gullible so if anything they

811
00:37:57,650 --> 00:37:54,900
can even be more difficult to convince

812
00:38:00,229 --> 00:37:57,660
it this is really open I don't know if

813
00:38:02,509 --> 00:38:00,239
you you feel that way to that you know

814
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:02,519
sometimes you just want to look like

815
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:05,130
you're being really really careful not

816
00:38:13,999 --> 00:38:07,680
to get carried away well one does look

817
00:38:16,489 --> 00:38:14,009
for a practical or ordinary explanation

818
00:38:20,029 --> 00:38:16,499
explanation of these things one does

819
00:38:22,789 --> 00:38:20,039
look well if I saw this you know pie

820
00:38:24,559 --> 00:38:22,799
shaped object in the sky with purple

821
00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:24,569
lights or something could it be

822
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:28,710
something else or was I you know high at

823
00:38:33,590 --> 00:38:31,410
the time or whatever like that okay for

824
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:33,600
those of you are just a tune into

825
00:38:39,170 --> 00:38:36,720
this blog cast uh we are speaking to

826
00:38:41,210 --> 00:38:39,180
marry Rodwell who is just an

827
00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:41,220
extraordinarily accomplished woman

828
00:38:47,570 --> 00:38:44,510
author producer of documentaries and

829
00:38:49,370 --> 00:38:47,580
Mary I'm going to let you tell the

830
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:49,380
audience about the various books that

831
00:38:56,660 --> 00:38:52,410
you have written and the documentaries

832
00:38:59,300 --> 00:38:56,670
that you've made okay thank you well

833
00:39:02,240 --> 00:38:59,310
awakening was written primarily because

834
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:02,250
I was very aware that there were not

835
00:39:05,900 --> 00:39:04,170
just thousands i believe millions of

836
00:39:08,420 --> 00:39:05,910
people around the globe having

837
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:08,430
experiences often very frightened

838
00:39:12,980 --> 00:39:11,130
feeling very isolated often very wary of

839
00:39:16,130 --> 00:39:12,990
even telling their family in case their

840
00:39:18,650 --> 00:39:16,140
family you know misinterprets you know

841
00:39:21,260 --> 00:39:18,660
what's going on for them and some do so

842
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:21,270
its hood you go to and if you go and see

843
00:39:25,970 --> 00:39:24,570
someone within you know psychology or

844
00:39:27,140 --> 00:39:25,980
whatever are they going to believe you

845
00:39:30,530 --> 00:39:27,150
or are they going to think you're crazy

846
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:30,540
all these kinds of concerns so what I

847
00:39:35,870 --> 00:39:33,210
put I wanted to do was all the questions

848
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:35,880
that i ever got asked was like am i

849
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:38,370
crazy how do i know i'm not crazy how do

850
00:39:42,110 --> 00:39:40,290
i know if this is real what do i do

851
00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:42,120
about the fear what if my kids are

852
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:44,400
having experiences missing pregnancies

853
00:39:49,970 --> 00:39:47,370
or you know how do i understand this so

854
00:39:52,670 --> 00:39:49,980
i wrote a book as a written as answering

855
00:39:54,740 --> 00:39:52,680
those questions as a resource for those

856
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:54,750
that had encountered so that they could

857
00:40:00,320 --> 00:39:57,210
actually go through a process themselves

858
00:40:03,230 --> 00:40:00,330
of working out as much as possible with

859
00:40:06,140 --> 00:40:03,240
resources as well but also including

860
00:40:08,210 --> 00:40:06,150
some of the things that are not always

861
00:40:10,730 --> 00:40:08,220
acknowledged with in ufology the

862
00:40:13,850 --> 00:40:10,740
outcomes or the transformative outcomes

863
00:40:17,060 --> 00:40:13,860
of having this experience which does and

864
00:40:18,770 --> 00:40:17,070
will ultimately change it because it

865
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:18,780
can't help but change you when you have

866
00:40:22,810 --> 00:40:20,850
these kinds of experiences because

867
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:22,820
there's an awareness a growing awareness

868
00:40:28,580 --> 00:40:27,210
within yourself of the you know that

869
00:40:32,420 --> 00:40:28,590
there is a multi-dimensional reality

870
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:32,430
that you are communicating on some level

871
00:40:36,860 --> 00:40:34,650
with different intelligences perhaps

872
00:40:38,780 --> 00:40:36,870
having downloads of information for

873
00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:38,790
example you know you know things and you

874
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:40,560
don't know how you know them for example

875
00:40:44,359 --> 00:40:41,130
right

876
00:40:46,130 --> 00:40:44,369
you know that's a big one it may be that

877
00:40:48,559 --> 00:40:46,140
you notice your psychic abilities are

878
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:48,569
enhanced that you start to see energy

879
00:40:52,430 --> 00:40:50,730
fields around people for all getting

880
00:40:54,529 --> 00:40:52,440
very interested in energy work or

881
00:40:57,799 --> 00:40:54,539
healing you may find yourself riding

882
00:40:59,240 --> 00:40:57,809
strange scripts or cup of articulating

883
00:41:00,680 --> 00:40:59,250
an unusual language that you don't

884
00:41:02,749 --> 00:41:00,690
really understand but feels very

885
00:41:06,529 --> 00:41:02,759
familiar to you and very comforting to

886
00:41:09,499 --> 00:41:06,539
you may be doing the unusual artwork or

887
00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:09,509
complex artwork or or geometry or

888
00:41:14,450 --> 00:41:11,730
whatever and in a sense that you're

889
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:14,460
connected to other intelligences that

890
00:41:18,799 --> 00:41:16,410
are other than humans and you may always

891
00:41:20,990 --> 00:41:18,809
feel you've never really belonged you've

892
00:41:22,849 --> 00:41:21,000
always felt different like you've almost

893
00:41:25,759 --> 00:41:22,859
been adopted by your family because you

894
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:25,769
may feel very different to them and the

895
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:28,410
sense of a mission I've got something to

896
00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:30,089
do and I really don't know what it is

897
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:32,910
but you know all these kinds of feelings

898
00:41:37,069 --> 00:41:34,410
and you don't know what to do with them

899
00:41:39,230 --> 00:41:37,079
this is all part of the shift and and

900
00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:39,240
when I say it changes your life it is

901
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:42,000
transformative because often many lose

902
00:41:46,509 --> 00:41:44,130
interest in things that they used to be

903
00:41:49,339 --> 00:41:46,519
interested in such as you know

904
00:41:51,410 --> 00:41:49,349
materialism they may change their diet

905
00:41:53,779 --> 00:41:51,420
they may want to have more holistic

906
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:53,789
lifestyles and live more simply for

907
00:41:59,240 --> 00:41:56,880
example this seems to be very common to

908
00:42:02,450 --> 00:41:59,250
having some form of experience whether

909
00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:02,460
it's abduch abduction contact expect you

910
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:04,710
know having these kinds of encounter

911
00:42:11,150 --> 00:42:07,680
experiences shift the whole reality

912
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:11,160
spectrum so it is life changing and it's

913
00:42:15,470 --> 00:42:13,410
one you can go into denial over and try

914
00:42:18,319 --> 00:42:15,480
and suppress and you may be able to do

915
00:42:20,089 --> 00:42:18,329
it for a while but ultimately it gets

916
00:42:21,980 --> 00:42:20,099
harder and harder to do that so you

917
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:21,990
either decide to own your reality and

918
00:42:27,529 --> 00:42:24,210
realize that you can manage folks as

919
00:42:29,930 --> 00:42:27,539
long as you begin to understand it so my

920
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:29,940
book is about helping you through that

921
00:42:34,549 --> 00:42:31,650
process and you've got no one there to

922
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:34,559
help you it talks about all of this and

923
00:42:38,990 --> 00:42:37,049
it talks about the Caitlyn for cases of

924
00:42:41,089 --> 00:42:39,000
people that have had the experiences how

925
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:41,099
did they deal with their fear how did

926
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:42,690
they deal when they were aware of this

927
00:42:47,059 --> 00:42:45,450
how did they come to terms with you know

928
00:42:49,370 --> 00:42:47,069
that the fact that they may be having it

929
00:42:51,620 --> 00:42:49,380
and other don't understand so who do

930
00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:51,630
they talk to who do they resource so

931
00:42:56,069 --> 00:42:53,200
it's that kind of pros

932
00:42:59,280 --> 00:42:56,079
and the second book that I'm writing is

933
00:43:01,589 --> 00:42:59,290
really more about what I think is the

934
00:43:04,349 --> 00:43:01,599
big agenda and there's many agendas and

935
00:43:07,020 --> 00:43:04,359
many programs for sure but one of them

936
00:43:09,740 --> 00:43:07,030
seems to be what I call an upgrading of

937
00:43:13,140 --> 00:43:09,750
humanity in terms of their awareness and

938
00:43:14,940 --> 00:43:13,150
unconsciousness itself and an awakening

939
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:14,950
is the book the name of my first book

940
00:43:19,650 --> 00:43:16,510
because that's what it is it's almost

941
00:43:22,530 --> 00:43:19,660
like you've been asleep and as you have

942
00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:22,540
these experiences it way it wakens it it

943
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:25,920
awakens you to a whole new broader

944
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:29,530
multi-dimensional experience and so it's

945
00:43:33,660 --> 00:43:31,450
like you suddenly realize that reality

946
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:33,670
isn't what you believed it to be that

947
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:36,910
reality has many layers to it if you

948
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:39,490
like and it can be confronting and it

949
00:43:43,410 --> 00:43:40,930
can be scary and if other people don't

950
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:43,420
want to hear it it's very hard because

951
00:43:47,819 --> 00:43:45,520
you get isolated so it's all those

952
00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:47,829
things that with the children they have

953
00:43:52,530 --> 00:43:50,800
conscious recall they will talk about

954
00:43:54,750 --> 00:43:52,540
the beings that come and visit them they

955
00:43:58,020 --> 00:43:54,760
will actually talk about them as friends

956
00:44:00,180 --> 00:43:58,030
or you know that you're all their angels

957
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:00,190
all their guides for example they are

958
00:44:03,690 --> 00:44:01,690
often talk about their past life

959
00:44:07,380 --> 00:44:03,700
memories of being on other planets they

960
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:07,390
have conscious recall and why it's not

961
00:44:11,099 --> 00:44:09,040
all about the children but it's

962
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:11,109
certainly about a lot about what the

963
00:44:16,859 --> 00:44:14,319
children say because one of the reasons

964
00:44:19,140 --> 00:44:16,869
I give it a lot of credentials is

965
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:19,150
because the children don't read books on

966
00:44:24,510 --> 00:44:22,210
this they don't watch talk shows their

967
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:24,520
information has a purity and clarity

968
00:44:30,870 --> 00:44:27,970
that as we get older we get programs out

969
00:44:34,770 --> 00:44:30,880
of our experiences like that as a

970
00:44:37,230 --> 00:44:34,780
nine-year-old told me Mary when you go

971
00:44:40,410 --> 00:44:37,240
to school they program you out of your

972
00:44:43,020 --> 00:44:40,420
life is the way that she explained of

973
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:43,030
what happens when we all know that we're

974
00:44:48,359 --> 00:44:45,609
conditioned into a 3d world we are

975
00:44:50,010 --> 00:44:48,369
conditioned out of that because it's not

976
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:50,020
okay unless you're an indigenous person

977
00:44:55,250 --> 00:44:52,560
where it's still acknowledged as being

978
00:44:57,900 --> 00:44:55,260
okay it's not okay in the Western

979
00:45:00,359 --> 00:44:57,910
technological scientific world but these

980
00:45:03,350 --> 00:45:00,369
children will talk about why they come

981
00:45:05,420 --> 00:45:03,360
what their mission is and it

982
00:45:07,550 --> 00:45:05,430
profound some of the things they talked

983
00:45:09,260 --> 00:45:07,560
about going up on spacecraft what they

984
00:45:11,630 --> 00:45:09,270
learn on spacecrafts i'll talk about

985
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:11,640
using brain waves as an eight-year-old

986
00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:13,890
told me with other children like himself

987
00:45:18,290 --> 00:45:16,110
some of his school friends plus other

988
00:45:20,330 --> 00:45:18,300
children he said that were not human and

989
00:45:21,950 --> 00:45:20,340
he with i said how do you know that and

990
00:45:24,350 --> 00:45:21,960
he would say because their eyes are

991
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:24,360
different and we all used our minds and

992
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:26,400
we would learn things about the origin

993
00:45:31,730 --> 00:45:28,800
of the species and and very complex

994
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:31,740
things and i was filming him saying this

995
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:34,530
and I said um complex can you tell me

996
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:37,290
some of the things you learn and he said

997
00:45:45,530 --> 00:45:41,310
to me very carefully I'm sorry but it's

998
00:45:47,300 --> 00:45:45,540
too complex for you to understand so

999
00:45:51,470 --> 00:45:47,310
that put me in my Flex well and truly

1000
00:45:54,970 --> 00:45:51,480
yeah I have a further a couple of

1001
00:45:59,330 --> 00:45:54,980
further questions for you one regarding

1002
00:46:03,830 --> 00:45:59,340
the fear not of being exposed as an

1003
00:46:07,070 --> 00:46:03,840
experiencer but what I experienced at

1004
00:46:11,890 --> 00:46:07,080
some point the raw Tara of losing

1005
00:46:15,020 --> 00:46:11,900
control in an experience or setting and

1006
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:15,030
what do you do you speak to that in your

1007
00:46:21,140 --> 00:46:18,690
book The Awakening absolutely I mean

1008
00:46:24,110 --> 00:46:21,150
certainly in awakening it or what do you

1009
00:46:25,790 --> 00:46:24,120
do about the vir and also to understand

1010
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:25,800
that often the fear is based on the

1011
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:29,130
unknown not for known because when you

1012
00:46:34,490 --> 00:46:31,410
have a visitor coming in or visitors

1013
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:34,500
coming into your room at night that in

1014
00:46:38,810 --> 00:46:37,110
itself is pretty terrifying and it's

1015
00:46:41,660 --> 00:46:38,820
understandable that anyone will go into

1016
00:46:43,310 --> 00:46:41,670
raw terror at that point but often it is

1017
00:46:47,150 --> 00:46:43,320
because they don't know what's going to

1018
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:47,160
happen they don't know you know whether

1019
00:46:51,290 --> 00:46:49,050
you know what what they're actually

1020
00:46:54,650 --> 00:46:51,300
going to do the whole thing around the

1021
00:46:57,050 --> 00:46:54,660
unknown is part of that so when I work

1022
00:46:59,390 --> 00:46:57,060
with someone who has that kind of terror

1023
00:47:01,070 --> 00:46:59,400
and it may be from even when there were

1024
00:47:03,170 --> 00:47:01,080
small child rather than adult

1025
00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:03,180
interactions by the way it may be as a

1026
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:04,800
child that they haven't understood

1027
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:07,440
what's going on and and understandably

1028
00:47:11,060 --> 00:47:09,570
you know if something's coming in your

1029
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:11,070
room and it's taking you somewhere and

1030
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:12,690
you don't understand that

1031
00:47:18,020 --> 00:47:15,450
one of the ways to one of the things

1032
00:47:20,569 --> 00:47:18,030
that the the chapter on fear is about is

1033
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:20,579
what did other people do when they were

1034
00:47:25,220 --> 00:47:22,770
faced with that how did they deal with

1035
00:47:26,329 --> 00:47:25,230
it how did they manage it especially you

1036
00:47:28,339 --> 00:47:26,339
know when they you know if they've got

1037
00:47:30,740 --> 00:47:28,349
children that are going into the fear so

1038
00:47:34,370 --> 00:47:30,750
all the strategies that they would use

1039
00:47:36,530 --> 00:47:34,380
but primarily with adults if you can it

1040
00:47:39,740 --> 00:47:36,540
fear is the big one for them in in

1041
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:39,750
hypnosis it's a really good way of

1042
00:47:44,839 --> 00:47:42,930
finding out exactly okay so something

1043
00:47:46,910 --> 00:47:44,849
terrifying you feel something terrifying

1044
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:46,920
may have happened but you don't know

1045
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:49,890
let's go there let's find out what it is

1046
00:47:54,770 --> 00:47:52,319
that scared you and it's often the

1047
00:47:56,410 --> 00:47:54,780
opposite to what they think they will

1048
00:47:58,609 --> 00:47:56,420
find themselves maybe having a procedure

1049
00:48:00,109 --> 00:47:58,619
but then they would find out what that

1050
00:48:02,089 --> 00:48:00,119
procedure was for and it may be a

1051
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:02,099
healing crizzly see you know procedure

1052
00:48:06,500 --> 00:48:04,410
it may be collecting genetic material

1053
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:06,510
and you would say to them so what what

1054
00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:07,890
is that about and the understanding

1055
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:11,609
behind including one of the questions I

1056
00:48:16,849 --> 00:48:14,130
also ask is the risk is there any

1057
00:48:18,890 --> 00:48:16,859
consent there on any level and some of

1058
00:48:20,990 --> 00:48:18,900
them will say yes before I came here um

1059
00:48:23,870 --> 00:48:21,000
does that make me feel any better not

1060
00:48:26,540 --> 00:48:23,880
necessarily sometimes yes okay I get it

1061
00:48:29,329 --> 00:48:26,550
now I get because I was one of them they

1062
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:29,339
say to me you know and I've undertaken

1063
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:32,250
to come on a mission to be in human form

1064
00:48:37,609 --> 00:48:34,770
because I'm assisting with the with this

1065
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:37,619
program and it completely changes the

1066
00:48:41,690 --> 00:48:39,810
way that they will understand that

1067
00:48:43,819 --> 00:48:41,700
experience a hundred eighty degree turn

1068
00:48:46,099 --> 00:48:43,829
because they've understood it it's like

1069
00:48:47,839 --> 00:48:46,109
if you show somebody having a pen

1070
00:48:49,550 --> 00:48:47,849
deceptively and they don't know what the

1071
00:48:51,559 --> 00:48:49,560
appendicectomy is there going to be

1072
00:48:53,359 --> 00:48:51,569
traumatized but if you say look if you

1073
00:48:55,730 --> 00:48:53,369
don't have that procedure you're going

1074
00:48:57,950 --> 00:48:55,740
to die because that is going to cause

1075
00:49:00,859 --> 00:48:57,960
your death how do you feel about that oh

1076
00:49:03,770 --> 00:49:00,869
well okay fair enough I get it I get it

1077
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:03,780
you know so often that that's what needs

1078
00:49:08,690 --> 00:49:06,569
to happen and for some once they know

1079
00:49:10,849 --> 00:49:08,700
that and I talked about this in the book

1080
00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:10,859
that you know somebody having a

1081
00:49:13,970 --> 00:49:12,510
terrifying experience in one of them was

1082
00:49:16,700 --> 00:49:13,980
about a missing pregnancy with the lady

1083
00:49:20,839 --> 00:49:16,710
and she realized that the reason that

1084
00:49:23,900 --> 00:49:20,849
this child was taken was a deal she done

1085
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:23,910
with these beings and it

1086
00:49:29,660 --> 00:49:27,210
he changed her anger and her trauma from

1087
00:49:34,849 --> 00:49:29,670
understanding to you know from this

1088
00:49:38,180 --> 00:49:34,859
total anger and frustration and you know

1089
00:49:41,870 --> 00:49:38,190
denial of everything in one session she

1090
00:49:43,370 --> 00:49:41,880
had a complete refrain so you know it

1091
00:49:46,609 --> 00:49:43,380
really is often because we don't

1092
00:49:48,890 --> 00:49:46,619
understand and we go into fear and part

1093
00:49:51,380 --> 00:49:48,900
of my work has been helping people to

1094
00:49:54,319 --> 00:49:51,390
come to a place of understanding however

1095
00:49:56,180 --> 00:49:54,329
that understanding you know needs to

1096
00:49:58,579 --> 00:49:56,190
happen for them and however ultimately

1097
00:50:01,670 --> 00:49:58,589
they choose to interpret that

1098
00:50:05,359 --> 00:50:01,680
understanding well that's that's a

1099
00:50:07,279 --> 00:50:05,369
wonderful explanation and and just to

1100
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:07,289
add something from my point of view

1101
00:50:12,859 --> 00:50:10,049
having been multiple experiencer and

1102
00:50:17,299 --> 00:50:12,869
having been terrified out of my wits at

1103
00:50:21,079 --> 00:50:17,309
times I can say at this date in my life

1104
00:50:24,020 --> 00:50:21,089
that it has Jane changed my life and not

1105
00:50:26,900 --> 00:50:24,030
for the worse for the better on some

1106
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:26,910
level though the experiences were very

1107
00:50:34,519 --> 00:50:31,650
terrifying to me and I actually talked

1108
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:34,529
about it as a modern-day you're you know

1109
00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:36,210
the UF Oaks was a modern-day shamanic

1110
00:50:41,630 --> 00:50:38,880
experience because the shaman in in

1111
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:41,640
previous times had to transcend their

1112
00:50:46,519 --> 00:50:44,130
fears to be able to operate as a shaman

1113
00:50:48,799 --> 00:50:46,529
in a multi-dimensional reality so that

1114
00:50:51,140 --> 00:50:48,809
they literally have to face all their

1115
00:50:53,930 --> 00:50:51,150
human fears you know to get into that

1116
00:50:55,819 --> 00:50:53,940
other awareness and I said and I feel in

1117
00:50:59,809 --> 00:50:55,829
a way it's almost like that's what it is

1118
00:51:03,049 --> 00:50:59,819
for those that have you know a fear to

1119
00:51:04,789 --> 00:51:03,059
transcend today then they can operate in

1120
00:51:08,029 --> 00:51:04,799
a multi-dimensional reality because

1121
00:51:09,740 --> 00:51:08,039
they've got past those human fears that

1122
00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:09,750
we all have and often we're generating

1123
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:12,089
them because it's it's because of an

1124
00:51:15,500 --> 00:51:13,890
unknown and to give you an example of

1125
00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:15,510
the gentleman who was terrified of the

1126
00:51:21,049 --> 00:51:18,089
eyes he said Mary every time I see those

1127
00:51:24,019 --> 00:51:21,059
big eyes I go into absolute you know

1128
00:51:26,059 --> 00:51:24,029
paralyzed with fear he was fine with all

1129
00:51:28,490 --> 00:51:26,069
his other experiences but the eyes got

1130
00:51:30,380 --> 00:51:28,500
to him and I remember saying well do you

1131
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:30,390
want to find out what happened because I

1132
00:51:33,230 --> 00:51:31,650
said what do you think happens when you

1133
00:51:33,700 --> 00:51:33,240
see the eyes oh I think they're going to

1134
00:51:36,130 --> 00:51:33,710
take me

1135
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:36,140
so I said what do you want to find out

1136
00:51:40,420 --> 00:51:38,480
what happened and he was brave enough

1137
00:51:42,970 --> 00:51:40,430
and courageous enough for me to

1138
00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:42,980
facilitate that and so we got him

1139
00:51:46,750 --> 00:51:44,720
gradually bringing your eyes towards

1140
00:51:48,339 --> 00:51:46,760
himself and it was you could see his

1141
00:51:50,710 --> 00:51:48,349
body language getting more and more

1142
00:51:52,420 --> 00:51:50,720
terrified as these eyes were getting

1143
00:51:54,460 --> 00:51:52,430
closer and closer I said look you all

1144
00:51:56,890 --> 00:51:54,470
right the eyes are coming closer be is

1145
00:51:59,560 --> 00:51:56,900
still okay you know and the color bit

1146
00:52:02,650 --> 00:51:59,570
close is still ok then all of a sudden

1147
00:52:04,270 --> 00:52:02,660
his whole body relaxed and I said well

1148
00:52:08,589 --> 00:52:04,280
what happened then you know did the I

1149
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:08,599
take you over ah he said no he said as

1150
00:52:13,810 --> 00:52:11,810
it got closer it was actually giving me

1151
00:52:17,020 --> 00:52:13,820
information so he was gaining

1152
00:52:19,359 --> 00:52:17,030
information from that procedure of the

1153
00:52:21,609 --> 00:52:19,369
as the I came closer it was it was

1154
00:52:24,099 --> 00:52:21,619
downloading into make information into

1155
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:24,109
him it wasn't doing anything else other

1156
00:52:28,780 --> 00:52:26,450
than that and once you realize that all

1157
00:52:32,170 --> 00:52:28,790
the fear went it was because he didn't

1158
00:52:34,510 --> 00:52:32,180
understand indeed indeed well I was

1159
00:52:37,300 --> 00:52:34,520
going to say that that working with the

1160
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:37,310
fear is very important and you had

1161
00:52:45,070 --> 00:52:40,250
mentioned that you do experience or

1162
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:45,080
workshops do you have them across across

1163
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:48,650
the world or mostly in probably in

1164
00:52:53,349 --> 00:52:50,810
Australia but do you have any plans to

1165
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:53,359
visit the United States or Canada with

1166
00:52:58,839 --> 00:52:55,760
these experience or workshops in twenty

1167
00:53:01,450 --> 00:52:58,849
sixteen or twenty seventeen it's quite

1168
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:01,460
possible in 2017 there is a possibility

1169
00:53:09,099 --> 00:53:06,050
at the end of the year in the US but as

1170
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:09,109
yet it hasn't been finalized yes I

1171
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:11,920
actually love doing workshops because

1172
00:53:17,890 --> 00:53:15,050
through those it's amazing the amount of

1173
00:53:19,839 --> 00:53:17,900
growth understanding connection that can

1174
00:53:24,070 --> 00:53:19,849
happen through workshops itself I mean I

1175
00:53:26,170 --> 00:53:24,080
enjoy the presentations but my main role

1176
00:53:28,990 --> 00:53:26,180
I feel as a therapist and as a

1177
00:53:31,900 --> 00:53:29,000
facilitator is to help people along on

1178
00:53:34,329 --> 00:53:31,910
their journey I'm with understanding and

1179
00:53:36,849 --> 00:53:34,339
that is that gives me the greatest joy

1180
00:53:38,020 --> 00:53:36,859
and it's amazing from even one workshop

1181
00:53:40,990 --> 00:53:38,030
I'm doing one in a couple of weeks

1182
00:53:41,819 --> 00:53:41,000
timing on the sunshine coast here and

1183
00:53:44,069 --> 00:53:41,829
what is

1184
00:53:46,259 --> 00:53:44,079
brilliant is that it's people connecting

1185
00:53:47,969 --> 00:53:46,269
with one another opening up maybe for

1186
00:53:50,279 --> 00:53:47,979
the first time in their lives and

1187
00:53:53,549 --> 00:53:50,289
finding others that understand and

1188
00:53:56,339 --> 00:53:53,559
hearing the same thing is so validating

1189
00:53:59,309 --> 00:53:56,349
and so empowering and so for me it's

1190
00:54:02,819 --> 00:53:59,319
always the most brilliant thing to be

1191
00:54:05,579 --> 00:54:02,829
able to do so for me that's my priority

1192
00:54:07,979 --> 00:54:05,589
and any chance I've got to do workshops

1193
00:54:10,380 --> 00:54:07,989
I will do do them I've done and some

1194
00:54:12,209 --> 00:54:10,390
things over skype as well but I am

1195
00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:12,219
actually going to Brazil this year and

1196
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:16,209
to the fourth UFO contactee forum in

1197
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:18,640
Brazil which is wonderful talking about

1198
00:54:25,380 --> 00:54:21,609
star kids because they're everywhere but

1199
00:54:28,289 --> 00:54:25,390
for me primarily it is about information

1200
00:54:31,559 --> 00:54:28,299
and it's about connecting people and

1201
00:54:34,739 --> 00:54:31,569
helping people to work through and

1202
00:54:36,779 --> 00:54:34,749
understand you know how I what this sort

1203
00:54:39,479 --> 00:54:36,789
is all about so that they can come to a

1204
00:54:41,489 --> 00:54:39,489
peace and an integration and they can

1205
00:54:43,709 --> 00:54:41,499
grow with it then when you're not afraid

1206
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:43,719
of it anymore you can embrace it and you

1207
00:54:49,130 --> 00:54:46,089
can start working with what this means

1208
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:49,140
to you in your life and your family and

1209
00:54:53,339 --> 00:54:51,609
often the only thing that it is is we're

1210
00:54:55,140 --> 00:54:53,349
afraid of judgment we're always afraid

1211
00:54:56,759 --> 00:54:55,150
someone is going to say whilst you know

1212
00:54:58,380 --> 00:54:56,769
what really doesn't matter what other

1213
00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:58,390
people think because if they're

1214
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:00,160
uninformed they're uninformed what

1215
00:55:04,769 --> 00:55:02,650
really matters and this is what I Satan

1216
00:55:07,259 --> 00:55:04,779
is you and your experience you are the

1217
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:07,269
expert on your your human experience

1218
00:55:10,979 --> 00:55:09,249
nobody else is and nobody has the right

1219
00:55:13,529 --> 00:55:10,989
to tell you what to believe and what not

1220
00:55:16,199 --> 00:55:13,539
to believe because it's you and it's

1221
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:16,209
your reality so am I gonna say anything

1222
00:55:23,069 --> 00:55:20,410
to anyone look you are you are the

1223
00:55:26,370 --> 00:55:23,079
expert on your world and your reality

1224
00:55:30,449 --> 00:55:26,380
nobody else's god boy can you give us

1225
00:55:33,269 --> 00:55:30,459
your website for people who want to find

1226
00:55:37,650 --> 00:55:33,279
out more about you just say it so people

1227
00:55:46,019 --> 00:55:37,660
can turn into you absolutely it's a CERN

1228
00:55:48,359 --> 00:55:46,029
which is WWE cbn.com au and we also

1229
00:55:51,620 --> 00:55:48,369
sorry I was just going to say and we

1230
00:55:54,260 --> 00:55:51,630
will put this up on the blog site of

1231
00:55:58,690 --> 00:55:54,270
shattered reality podcast

1232
00:56:01,340 --> 00:55:58,700
calm there will be a link to your site

1233
00:56:03,590 --> 00:56:01,350
that's wonderful i'm also on facebook of

1234
00:56:06,380 --> 00:56:03,600
course as well with their CERN so you

1235
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:06,390
can access me to either of those as well

1236
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:09,210
and lots of and I really hope that

1237
00:56:14,570 --> 00:56:12,810
people enjoy listening to this and to

1238
00:56:16,670 --> 00:56:14,580
the fact that you've all been so

1239
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:16,680
courageous and you know saying you know

1240
00:56:23,450 --> 00:56:19,290
that this is this is your world too and

1241
00:56:26,780 --> 00:56:23,460
it's everywhere it's it so is part of

1242
00:56:30,290 --> 00:56:26,790
you know this big shift in in realizing

1243
00:56:32,540 --> 00:56:30,300
went on alone yes yes absolutely and we

1244
00:56:35,660 --> 00:56:32,550
cannot begin to thank you enough for

1245
00:56:39,530 --> 00:56:35,670
being our guest on shattered reality

1246
00:56:42,260 --> 00:56:39,540
podcast just a fascinating power really

1247
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:42,270
thank you so much I tend to be a little

1248
00:56:47,090 --> 00:56:45,090
bit more skeptical in ferocia but you

1249
00:56:49,730 --> 00:56:47,100
have named quite convinced well you've

1250
00:56:52,940 --> 00:56:49,740
had your experiences to you know I deny

1251
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:52,950
themselves as Mary said if you're

1252
00:56:59,540 --> 00:56:56,130
denying them they ain't happening but uh

1253
00:57:00,980 --> 00:56:59,550
thank you again from k2 I really really

1254
00:57:03,770 --> 00:57:00,990
appreciate your spending with talk

1255
00:57:05,780 --> 00:57:03,780
business she's been an absolute pleasure

1256
00:57:07,820 --> 00:57:05,790
thank you Stefan you're welcome have a

1257
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:07,830
warning posted on your on your

1258
00:57:13,010 --> 00:57:10,170
activities we want to hear more from you

1259
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:13,020
thank you oh I will do thank you both

1260
00:57:20,450 --> 00:57:17,130
thank you bye bye bye bye know and I

1261
00:57:23,270 --> 00:57:20,460
want to thank our our wonderful engineer

1262
00:57:25,700 --> 00:57:23,280
bill yeah poor mr. bill had his ups and

1263
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:25,710
downs today but no he's doing a great

1264
00:57:33,290 --> 00:57:29,210
job he he had something kind of

1265
00:57:36,490 --> 00:57:33,300
challenging to do and I wanted to also

1266
00:57:40,340 --> 00:57:36,500
mention about our next guests on

1267
00:57:44,270 --> 00:57:40,350
shattered reality podcast will be Andrew

1268
00:57:47,540 --> 00:57:44,280
chestnut talking to us from Virginia in

1269
00:57:52,250 --> 00:57:47,550
the United States and he will be talking

1270
00:57:57,230 --> 00:57:52,260
to us about Santa Muerte ooh st. death

1271
00:57:59,520 --> 00:57:57,240
who was usually pictured as a woman in a

1272
00:58:05,790 --> 00:57:59,530
wedding dress but a skeleton woman

1273
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:05,800
and I had visited merida in mexico which

1274
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:08,770
is in the Yucatan and I picked up a

1275
00:58:16,020 --> 00:58:12,730
little figure of death while I was there

1276
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:16,030
it's it's a skeleton riding a motorcycle

1277
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:18,490
and I may put it up on the blog a

1278
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:21,970
picture of my own little boy thing see I

1279
00:58:26,910 --> 00:58:24,610
don't like what stuff well we'll find

1280
00:58:31,500 --> 00:58:26,920
out more about it well find out more

1281
00:58:34,670 --> 00:58:31,510
about it alright I like yeah okay don't

1282
00:58:37,980 --> 00:58:34,680
free judge on X yes alright alright

1283
00:58:40,730 --> 00:58:37,990
unfortunately Diane's experience was

1284
00:58:43,710 --> 00:58:40,740
sort of lost in an electronic whirl and

1285
00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:43,720
Mary was not able to hear it in

1286
00:58:49,830 --> 00:58:47,440
Australia we didn't get something of her

1287
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:49,840
interpretation of the event that it

1288
00:58:56,070 --> 00:58:52,690
might have been teleportation and just a

1289
00:58:59,550 --> 00:58:56,080
sort of a wake-up call to Diane who

1290
00:59:02,280 --> 00:58:59,560
experiences as that it was a message of

1291
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:02,290
some sort and she also Mary also felt

1292
00:59:09,630 --> 00:59:05,200
that there was a possibility of time

1293
00:59:11,820 --> 00:59:09,640
manipulation so I would also think my

1294
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:11,830
own personal interpretation would be

1295
00:59:16,380 --> 00:59:14,110
sometimes I've driven and I have a

1296
00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:16,390
million things on my mind and suddenly I

1297
00:59:21,060 --> 00:59:18,400
wind up and I don't know how I even got

1298
00:59:24,150 --> 00:59:21,070
there and it's possible that this woman

1299
00:59:26,750 --> 00:59:24,160
also had that type of a just mundane

1300
00:59:29,430 --> 00:59:26,760
experience and we'd really appreciate

1301
00:59:32,370 --> 00:59:29,440
your opinion and your thoughts on this

1302
00:59:36,930 --> 00:59:32,380
and you can post it on our blog site and

1303
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:36,940
you can do that by going to shattered

1304
00:59:45,150 --> 00:59:41,650
reality podcast.com and you can go to

1305
00:59:47,310 --> 00:59:45,160
the Mary Rodwell episode which at the

1306
00:59:50,670 --> 00:59:47,320
current time would be the first episode

1307
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:50,680
up but if you're listening after March

1308
00:59:57,930 --> 00:59:54,160
or April of 2016 it's likely to be a

1309
01:00:02,250 --> 00:59:57,940
couple a couple of podcasts down on the

1310
01:00:05,730 --> 01:00:02,260
list so shattered reality podcast.com or

1311
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:05,740
shattered reality podcast or press com